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Battle of the Pods: Rincoe Ceto vs Suorin Vagon vs VooPoo Panda https://ift.tt/2MmUB6g

Hello everyone!

I've been using these three pod systems from two weeks to a month now. I figured a 3-way comparison would be more useful than reviewing them individually.

All of these devices were sent to me to review. Suorin Vagon was sent by Heaven Gifts, Rincoe Ceto was sent by Rincoe and the VooPoo Panda was sent by VooPoo. All of them come in a variety of colors.

This is actually my second unit of Panda, the first one died after a few days of use. VooPoo said the first unit was a pre-release review unit that might have slipped through quality control.

The Contenders


I've used the same ejuice in all three devices. It's a 70VG mix with 24mg nicotine salt. It's a Kush Man type flavor with very little sweetener.

It's hard to properly measure the dimensions of the Suorin Vagon and Rincoe Ceto because of their shape and curves. I've measured the longest edges where possible.

VooPoo Panda comes with a 8 watt MTL pod and a 12 watt Restricted Lung Hit pod. The other two devices come with just MTL pods.

Attributes Rincoe Ceto Suorin Vagon VooPoo Panda
H x W x T 80mm x 37mm x 9.5mm 105mm x 25mm x 17mm 78mm x 47mm x 27mm
Price ~$16 ~$28 ~$27
Weight 51g 54g 71g
Battery 370mah 430mah 1100mah
Pod Capacity 2ml 2ml 5ml
Price of a pod ~$3.00 ~$3.45 ~$3.20
Activation Method Puff Puff Button
Included Pods 1 1 2

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Flavor


Flavor-wise they're all decent, especially considering the size of the coils. Obviously they're not as flavorful as rebuildables, or even sub-ohm tanks, but they're flavorful enough to hold your attention. Frankly, flavor isn't meant to be the star of the show here, it's there to sugar-coat the thunderous nic salt hit that these pods are so good at delivering.

There's a noticeable degradation in flavor after the first fill in the Ceto and the Vagon. It degrades further with every fill until the pod dies.

These pods systems were a big hit among my smoker friends. They liked the flavor produced by these pods and they loved the nic salt hit even more. I think these pod systems are suited better for them than the experienced vapers looking for a change of pace.

Winner

For MTL pods it's a tie. Overall I liked the 12 watt pods in VooPoo Panda the most. Flavor was a bit more saturated than the rest.

What they all get wrong

A GOD DAMN REGULATING CHIP

My main problem with all three pods: unregulated power delivery. When the charge is full they provide a satisfactory, flavorful nic salt hit. As the battery voltage starts to drop the flavor and the hit gets weaker. You can't help but reminisce on how well they hit fresh off the charger after the first 20-25 hits. It's a bummer really. The Ceto and the Vagon are more affected by this than the Panda.

This might not be an issue if you've just switched over from cigs and are taking just a few puffs every 2-3 hours. You'll feel almost anything at that point. But if you like to top up a few times per hour you're going to be disappointed with all 3.

They don't have to offer VV/VW/TC, there's no need for a screen. They just need to deliver a consistent voltage for a consistent vape, from 100% charge to 0%. They can pick any voltage and then wrap the coils accordingly. I'm sure they can fit a simple regulator without making the units too big.

Draw


I think all three of them have a draw that's a little loose for MTL hits if you like to draw in one go. if you do a few short MTL pulls you get a much better result. Obviously lung hitting them will yield the best flavor and hit. VooPoo 12w pod is pretty good for that, but the rest of the devices are quite good too.

For MTL pods I'd say VooPoo Panda produces the most vapor. Suorin Vagon is next, followed by Rincoe Ceto. The Panda should've had a much narrower bored drip tip.

Winner

Suorin Vagon is the clear winner here. Keep in mind it's a personal preference. I found it to have the smoothest draw among all 3. I normally lung hit the other devices but I like to vape the Vagon with few short MTL pulls.

Portability


They are all very small and light and should fit in just about any pocket. Their shapes are very ergonomic too, which makes them easy to hold and carry.

They all have a similar filling method. It's very easy to use with narrow tipped bottles like the Chubby Gorilla or regular e-liquid bottles. Dropper bottles or twist cap bottles won't work.

None of them leaked in the entire time I used them.

Winner

Rincoe Ceto is the easiest to carry. It's slim and flat shape makes it slightly easier to carry in pockets.

Suorin Vagon is the easiest to use. the mouthpiece is in the center unlike the other two. Like the Ceto it's also draw activated, you don't need to press any buttons.

The off-center mouthpiece of the Ceto can make it awkward at times to puff. VooPoo Panda might be a little awkward to use if you've got big hands, as the button and the mouth piece are very close to each other, on the same plane.

What they all got wrong

None of the 3 pods come with a cap to close off the mouth piece. They are all tiny and meant to be carried in pockets but you'll always have lint and dirt gathering in the pods if you do. It's not just these 3, the majority of the pods out now don't come with a cap either. Very disappointing.

Battery Life


The Ceto (370mah) and the Vagon (430mah) lasts about the same amount of time despite the small differences in battery size. They both last the entire day when you take 5-6 puffs an hour. They charge from near zero to 100% in just under an hour.

The Panda with the MTL pod lasts significantly longer due to the much larger battery size. Battery life is a little worse with the DTL pod, but it'll still last more than a day. The Panda takes about an hour and half to fully charge.

The charge will run out before you have to refill the pod in all three of these devices.

Keep in mind battery life of these pod systems can be a little subjective. Sure you can vape them till the battery is completely drained but since they're unregulated the voltage will drop as the battery drains. After a certain period they get too weak for my taste to get a satisfactory vape, but the battery still holds some charge. Because of that I try to top up the charge as often as possible.

Once again a regulated chip would help out a lot here. I would gladly trade some battery life for a consistent voltage output.

Winner

VooPoo Panda hands down. It's a tie between the other two.

Pod Life


IMO just like battery life, pod life is subjective too. Do you throw out a pod when it tastes burnt, or do you throw it out when the flavor isn't as good anymore? Since flavor degrades with every fill, at what point is it not good enough anymore?

For example the Ceto booklet suggests the pods are good for 5 fills. I've put 4 on one so far and I'm pretty sure I can go 7-8 fills with this before it starts tasting burnt. I'll probably replace it as soon as it empties because I'm not happy with the flavor anymore. I got about 5 fills on the Vagon and 4 fills on the Panda 12W pod before I wanted to switch. Not a single dud in any of the devices so far. I think they all last a decent amount of time where your daily cost for pods won't be more than 25 – 50 cents.

MISC


  • The "V" slowly lights up when you draw on the Vagon. It looks really cool. All around it's the most premium feeling device among the 3.
  • Suroin Vagon is the only one with a proper battery level indicator. The "V" changes color depending on the charge. The other two only lets you know when the battery is dead or is about to die.
  • The Ceto is a fingerprint magnet due to the gloss finish. I had it in my pocket with my keys and the plastic coating above the carbon fiber sticker got scratched on the first day 😦
  • If you've got big hands you might find it awkward to press the fire button on the Panda as you vape.
  • Open the Panda cover slowly, otherwise the pod might jump out!
  • Ceto pods are the easiest and the most fun to change. They're magnetic and they just snap right on.

~TLDR & Conclusion


I think all 3 of them are quite similar in a lot of aspects. VooPoo Panda is the clear choice if battery life is the most important thing to you. If size and ease of use are more important then you can choose between Rincoe Ceto or Suorin Vagon. I hope all of them will have spare pods available for at least the next 12-18 months.

Nic salt and these pod systems are amazing for people looking to quit smoking. They're small and portable, leak free and super easy to use. The flavor they all produce is adequate. The hit is more comparable to cigs than freebase nic + sub-ohm setup. They're no Juul, but the money saved with refillable pods make them far more attractive.

Their portability is very attractive to seasoned vapers as well. All of them are quite cheap to try to see if pods are right for you.

I've given the Panda to a friend two days ago and he's been smoke free since. I'm keeping the Ceto for myself. When I go out it always stays in my pocket. When I'm running errands I leave the mod in the car. The Ceto is fantastic for the short walk from the parking lot to the store. I'm gonna give away the Vagon to someone who needs one.

You can find them on Heaven Gifts, HealthCabin, Sourcemore or Fasttech among other places. I deal with all four of those companies regularly and I have nothing but great things to say about their CS.

I'm on Instagram now as well. I post daily photos of my stuff and gear that are in the review queue. I'd appreciate it if you guys checked it out!

Hello everyone!I’ve been using these three pod systems from two weeks to a month now. I figured a 3-way comparison would be more useful than reviewing them individually.All of these devices were sent to me to review. Suorin Vagon was sent by Heaven Gifts, Rincoe Ceto was sent by Rincoe and the VooPoo Panda was sent by VooPoo. All of them come in a variety of colors.This is actually my second unit of Panda, the first one died after a few days of use. VooPoo said the first unit was a pre-release review unit that might have slipped through quality control.The ContendersI’ve used the same ejuice in all three devices. It’s a 70VG mix with 24mg nicotine salt. It’s a Kush Man type flavor with very little sweetener.It’s hard to properly measure the dimensions of the Suorin Vagon and Rincoe Ceto because of their shape and curves. I’ve measured the longest edges where possible.VooPoo Panda comes with a 8 watt MTL pod and a 12 watt Restricted Lung Hit pod. The other two devices come with just MTL pods.AttributesRincoe CetoSuorin VagonVooPoo PandaH x W x T80mm x 37mm x 9.5mm105mm x 25mm x 17mm78mm x 47mm x 27mmPrice~$16~$28~$27Weight51g54g71gBattery370mah430mah1100mahPod Capacity2ml2ml5mlPrice of a pod~$3.00~$3.45~$3.20Activation MethodPuffPuffButtonIncluded Pods112PhotosSide by sideSize comparison with modsHandcheckRincoe Ceto unboxedSuorin Vagon unboxedVooPoo Panda unboxedAvailable colors for Rincoe CetoAvailable colors for Suorin VagonAvailable colors for VooPoo PandaFlavorFlavor-wise they’re all decent, especially considering the size of the coils. Obviously they’re not as flavorful as rebuildables, or even sub-ohm tanks, but they’re flavorful enough to hold your attention. Frankly, flavor isn’t meant to be the star of the show here, it’s there to sugar-coat the thunderous nic salt hit that these pods are so good at delivering.There’s a noticeable degradation in flavor after the first fill in the Ceto and the Vagon. It degrades further with every fill until the pod dies.These pods systems were a big hit among my smoker friends. They liked the flavor produced by these pods and they loved the nic salt hit even more. I think these pod systems are suited better for them than the experienced vapers looking for a change of pace.WinnerFor MTL pods it’s a tie. Overall I liked the 12 watt pods in VooPoo Panda the most. Flavor was a bit more saturated than the rest.What they all get wrongA GOD DAMN REGULATING CHIPMy main problem with all three pods: unregulated power delivery. When the charge is full they provide a satisfactory, flavorful nic salt hit. As the battery voltage starts to drop the flavor and the hit gets weaker. You can’t help but reminisce on how well they hit fresh off the charger after the first 20-25 hits. It’s a bummer really. The Ceto and the Vagon are more affected by this than the Panda.This might not be an issue if you’ve just switched over from cigs and are taking just a few puffs every 2-3 hours. You’ll feel almost anything at that point. But if you like to top up a few times per hour you’re going to be disappointed with all 3.They don’t have to offer VV/VW/TC, there’s no need for a screen. They just need to deliver a consistent voltage for a consistent vape, from 100% charge to 0%. They can pick any voltage and then wrap the coils accordingly. I’m sure they can fit a simple regulator without making the units too big.DrawI think all three of them have a draw that’s a little loose for MTL hits if you like to draw in one go. if you do a few short MTL pulls you get a much better result. Obviously lung hitting them will yield the best flavor and hit. VooPoo 12w pod is pretty good for that, but the rest of the devices are quite good too.For MTL pods I’d say VooPoo Panda produces the most vapor. Suorin Vagon is next, followed by Rincoe Ceto. The Panda should’ve had a much narrower bored drip tip.WinnerSuorin Vagon is the clear winner here. Keep in mind it’s a personal preference. I found it to have the smoothest draw among all 3. I normally lung hit the other devices but I like to vape the Vagon with few short MTL pulls.PortabilityThey are all very small and light and should fit in just about any pocket. Their shapes are very ergonomic too, which makes them easy to hold and carry.They all have a similar filling method. It’s very easy to use with narrow tipped bottles like the Chubby Gorilla or regular e-liquid bottles. Dropper bottles or twist cap bottles won’t work.None of them leaked in the entire time I used them.WinnerRincoe Ceto is the easiest to carry. It’s slim and flat shape makes it slightly easier to carry in pockets.Suorin Vagon is the easiest to use. the mouthpiece is in the center unlike the other two. Like the Ceto it’s also draw activated, you don’t need to press any buttons.The off-center mouthpiece of the Ceto can make it awkward at times to puff. VooPoo Panda might be a little awkward to use if you’ve got big hands, as the button and the mouth piece are very close to each other, on the same plane.What they all got wrongNone of the 3 pods come with a cap to close off the mouth piece. They are all tiny and meant to be carried in pockets but you’ll always have lint and dirt gathering in the pods if you do. It’s not just these 3, the majority of the pods out now don’t come with a cap either. Very disappointing.Battery LifeThe Ceto (370mah) and the Vagon (430mah) lasts about the same amount of time despite the small differences in battery size. They both last the entire day when you take 5-6 puffs an hour. They charge from near zero to 100% in just under an hour.The Panda with the MTL pod lasts significantly longer due to the much larger battery size. Battery life is a little worse with the DTL pod, but it’ll still last more than a day. The Panda takes about an hour and half to fully charge.The charge will run out before you have to refill the pod in all three of these devices.Keep in mind battery life of these pod systems can be a little subjective. Sure you can vape them till the battery is completely drained but since they’re unregulated the voltage will drop as the battery drains. After a certain period they get too weak for my taste to get a satisfactory vape, but the battery still holds some charge. Because of that I try to top up the charge as often as possible.Once again a regulated chip would help out a lot here. I would gladly trade some battery life for a consistent voltage output.WinnerVooPoo Panda hands down. It’s a tie between the other two.Pod LifeIMO just like battery life, pod life is subjective too. Do you throw out a pod when it tastes burnt, or do you throw it out when the flavor isn’t as good anymore? Since flavor degrades with every fill, at what point is it not good enough anymore?For example the Ceto booklet suggests the pods are good for 5 fills. I’ve put 4 on one so far and I’m pretty sure I can go 7-8 fills with this before it starts tasting burnt. I’ll probably replace it as soon as it empties because I’m not happy with the flavor anymore. I got about 5 fills on the Vagon and 4 fills on the Panda 12W pod before I wanted to switch. Not a single dud in any of the devices so far. I think they all last a decent amount of time where your daily cost for pods won’t be more than 25 – 50 cents.MISCThe “V” slowly lights up when you draw on the Vagon. It looks really cool. All around it’s the most premium feeling device among the 3.Suroin Vagon is the only one with a proper battery level indicator. The “V” changes color depending on the charge. The other two only lets you know when the battery is dead or is about to die.The Ceto is a fingerprint magnet due to the gloss finish. I had it in my pocket with my keys and the plastic coating above the carbon fiber sticker got scratched on the first day :(If you’ve got big hands you might find it awkward to press the fire button on the Panda as you vape.Open the Panda cover slowly, otherwise the pod might jump out!Ceto pods are the easiest and the most fun to change. They’re magnetic and they just snap right on.~TLDR & ConclusionI think all 3 of them are quite similar in a lot of aspects. VooPoo Panda is the clear choice if battery life is the most important thing to you. If size and ease of use are more important then you can choose between Rincoe Ceto or Suorin Vagon. I hope all of them will have spare pods available for at least the next 12-18 months.Nic salt and these pod systems are amazing for people looking to quit smoking. They’re small and portable, leak free and super easy to use. The flavor they all produce is adequate. The hit is more comparable to cigs than freebase nic + sub-ohm setup. They’re no Juul, but the money saved with refillable pods make them far more attractive.Their portability is very attractive to seasoned vapers as well. All of them are quite cheap to try to see if pods are right for you.I’ve given the Panda to a friend two days ago and he’s been smoke free since. I’m keeping the Ceto for myself. When I go out it always stays in my pocket. When I’m running errands I leave the mod in the car. The Ceto is fantastic for the short walk from the parking lot to the store. I’m gonna give away the Vagon to someone who needs one.You can find them on Heaven Gifts, HealthCabin, Sourcemore or Fasttech among other places. I deal with all four of those companies regularly and I have nothing but great things to say about their CS.I’m on Instagram now as well. I post daily photos of my stuff and gear that are in the review queue. I’d appreciate it if you guys checked it out!

Submitted August 12, 2018 at 08:24PM by SirTimmyTimbit
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