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My experience on this subject is anecdotal, so I am wondering how many vapers have seen this. This is an important issue to talk about, as it forms the basis of ecigarette bans in many countries, including my own (i.e Australia).

Several smokers I have attempted to help switch to vaping have failed to switch. They still keep their ecig (since they paid money for it), but whenever I visit them, I notice their ejuice has darkened significantly (vanilla flavored ejuices have turned completely black – which is normal, but those who vape regularly would practically never know this or see it happen). Also, their ecigarette is often at the bottom of a drawer or at the back of a cupboard, and has no charge.

When asked about vaping, they would lie (although I would never call them out on it), and they just shrug off the comment and say something vague like "yeh, I sometimes use it", when it's quite clear that they do not.

If these people were asked by a scientific researcher, especially by those researchers who frame questions in order to find as many "Dual Users" as possible, these people would be counted towards as dual users. Questions like "Do you smoke", and "Do you own an ecig", are some examples that would give false positives. In reality however, these people I know who failed to switch to vaping, are indeed 100% smokers.

So from personal experience, I would say that vaping doesn't work for everyone. And that's ok. It's not for everyone. Some people may switch to vaping exclusively. Some people may dual use for maybe a couple of months. But long term dual use of ecigarettes and smoking appears not to exist as far as I can see.

If my experiences are in fact a common occurrence, I doubt that this fact would ever see the light of day. Academic Opponents of vaping who have strong connections to the Government, such as Stan Glantz (US), Martin McKee (UK) and Simon Chapman (AUS), cite papers that have shown Dual Use to be common, and these have been formally submitted to their respective Governments to justify heavy restrictions, and in the case of some Australian States, total bans on the sales of all vaping products. But these papers never actually investigated long term dual use extensively. The questions are often very vague, and probably don't reflect on the true nature of Long Term dual use.

So I am interested in combating Opponents of Vaping on this issue. And I think as vapers, we have more insight into identifying people who are exclusive vapers, and those who lie about vaping to so called "pleasing the interviewer".

If you were to attempt determine if a person was an exclusive vaper, exclusive smoker, short term dual-user, or long term dual-user, what questions would you ask them?

My experience on this subject is anecdotal, so I am wondering how many vapers have seen this. This is an important issue to talk about, as it forms the basis of ecigarette bans in many countries, including my own (i.e Australia).Several smokers I have attempted to help switch to vaping have failed to switch. They still keep their ecig (since they paid money for it), but whenever I visit them, I notice their ejuice has darkened significantly (vanilla flavored ejuices have turned completely black – which is normal, but those who vape regularly would practically never know this or see it happen). Also, their ecigarette is often at the bottom of a drawer or at the back of a cupboard, and has no charge.When asked about vaping, they would lie (although I would never call them out on it), and they just shrug off the comment and say something vague like “yeh, I sometimes use it”, when it’s quite clear that they do not.If these people were asked by a scientific researcher, especially by those researchers who frame questions in order to find as many “Dual Users” as possible, these people would be counted towards as dual users. Questions like “Do you smoke”, and “Do you own an ecig”, are some examples that would give false positives. In reality however, these people I know who failed to switch to vaping, are indeed 100% smokers.So from personal experience, I would say that vaping doesn’t work for everyone. And that’s ok. It’s not for everyone. Some people may switch to vaping exclusively. Some people may dual use for maybe a couple of months. But long term dual use of ecigarettes and smoking appears not to exist as far as I can see.If my experiences are in fact a common occurrence, I doubt that this fact would ever see the light of day. Academic Opponents of vaping who have strong connections to the Government, such as Stan Glantz (US), Martin McKee (UK) and Simon Chapman (AUS), cite papers that have shown Dual Use to be common, and these have been formally submitted to their respective Governments to justify heavy restrictions, and in the case of some Australian States, total bans on the sales of all vaping products. But these papers never actually investigated long term dual use extensively. The questions are often very vague, and probably don’t reflect on the true nature of Long Term dual use.So I am interested in combating Opponents of Vaping on this issue. And I think as vapers, we have more insight into identifying people who are exclusive vapers, and those who lie about vaping to so called “pleasing the interviewer”.If you were to attempt determine if a person was an exclusive vaper, exclusive smoker, short term dual-user, or long term dual-user, what questions would you ask them?

Submitted December 05, 2018 at 02:35AM by vapencrapen
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